Implemented /Kit & /Daily

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  1. HeroDJBrine
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    I'm sure everyone can agree that there is nothing more annoying than logging into skyblock on a nice Saturday morning and as soon as you try to collect your kit or /daily grass you get this disappointing message "You can't use that kit for another 6 hours" or "You've already claimed this reward!"

    So here's my suggestion: Change /kit and /daily countdown to reset at the same hour each day, just like voting, (maybe midnight?) instead of 24 hours after reward collected.

    Hopefully this suggestion makes sense and gets implemented!
    And sorry if this has already been suggested : p
     
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    It has, but good to have it brought up again.
    Kits are advertised as being available every 24 hours or what ever time period it is, but with the current system, it is technically impossible to achieve. The time you can claim them will always push out.

    What you’re asking for is only what was offered when you bought the kit / rank. So nothing that we shouldn’t already have.

    Please make good on your advertisement as we have all made good on our payments.
     
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    I’ve thought about this so many times after realizing that the kits will never be exactly 24 hours and as such there will eventually be a day missed, this would make it much smarter and better
     
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    I tried suggesting and coming up with a way to deal with this a while ago, it got some support but never really got looked at by staff, hopefully you have more luck!
     
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    Thanks! And sorry, I didn't know you suggested this before xD
     
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    This is good, but it also means you can collect /daily basically simultaneously (for example, 7:59 and 8:00). I think 23 hours (instead of 24) would be a good option too, as many people log on at a similar time each day
     
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    It matters not that you can claim them simultaneously as you won’t be able to claim them for the 24 hours either side of that.
    /daily is quite useless now as use of profit shop will net you far more in a short amount of time.

    Allowing /kit to be used every 23 hours would mean players could get one extra kit every month which I doubt would be permitted.
     
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    I feel this comment is unfairly pointed. For one, you're fighting semantics a bit. The rank descriptions previously stated "x day cooldown", or "x hour cooldown". Skyknight and Skyking both still word their cooldowns that way. I'm not sure why they were changed (probably to sound more like human speak), but if saying "every day" instead of "24 hour cooldown" seems misleading, there could be a movement to have all wording changed back to "cooldown".

    The way kits currently work is how they've worked in Essentials since October of 2011. Resultantly, that's the way they've worked in hundreds of thousands of servers over the last decade. It's unfair to state that any of these servers that chose to word kits as "every day", "every 2 days", etc, instead of "after x cooldown" are guilty of misleading customers. Due to how long they've worked like this, myself and many others still read any kit cooldown as exactly that, a cooldown. I can see where others would get confused, though.



    Personal response to suggestion
    I think the suggestion overall is very interesting. I definitely like the idea of it for /daily. As someone who's been using Essentials on servers since 2012, it hurts a bit conceptionally to imagine kits working anyway other that what I'm used to. I also recognize, though, that change is good, and things shouldn't stay a certain way just because "that's how it's always been".

    From a development perspective, it'd be a bit of an interesting challenge. A decent bit of the Essentials code would have to be gutted. For implementation, there's a few different routes that could be taken. Easiest path (from what I can tell) would be to find the timestamp that correlates with the closest reset time, and set that on the player file. So if a kit had a cooldown of 1 day, you'd set it to the next reset. If it's 2 days, you go to the next reset after that, etc. Ideally, it wouldn't be too painful to add in, but things love to become more complicated once you're actually writing it.
     
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    I'd like the kit to work like this.

    It's the same idea as voting where you can do it within any time period of however long the period is. I always forget to claim my kit as early as I can always end up wasting a few hours or more added until I can get my next one. Would be easier to be able to claim at any point during the day
     
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    Drogo isn’t saying that it’s deliberately misleading, but what is advertised, eg. “kit skytitan every day “ is unachievable . Drogo doesn’t recall it being stated any other way.
    And as you say, things shouldn’t stay a certain way just because it’s always been that way. Nor should it, because it’s the way everyone else does it.
     
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    I am here to support this suggestion as I am often finding myself waiting two days to claim my daily as the time gets pushed further and further into the night.
     
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    This is what Marcawn was thinking as well, Support.
     
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    support! i like this idea a lot and it would be very helpful.
     
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    Stop post farming or ban
    Support for the purpose of post farming like boba and yeah it'll help a lot.
    Also maybe some notification to remind u to claim ur kit and daily if there isn't any or wasn't suggested at all?
     
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    Support this would be super useful.
     
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    Support!
     
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    this doesn't sound bad at all but i always collect kit right before school at around 7 to 8 am so i have it in my inv when logging on after school so like if this would be something in game i just hope it won't be at the same time for everyone like maybe at 5pm for me and 3am for someone else or we should at least be able to choose when it should always be at for us ig so like i'm neutral on this
     
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    I don't see why it would matter at which time it resets, as it would reset at the same time everyday. And unlike voting, there is no race to collect it first.
     
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