Global Add the End to Skyblock

Edited 4/13/2021 for clarity and formatting

SO. Let's get down to business:

THE SUGGESTION:
Add the end to Skyblock.
You would go to the end via a portal at spawn titled /warp end. Once you went through the portal, you would be teleported to the end far lands relative to your island in the overworld's position rather than the original end. The main end island would be deleted and (possibly) overwritten with far lands?
/fly would be disabled, as well as /god and similar commands. End stone drop rate would be reduced, as well as chorus fruit. Obsidian would be unbreakable.
Problems with the suggestion:

1. Having a portal at spawn would be an issue, as people could grief the spawn, etc.
   This could be fixed by having the end portal teleport you to a random end portal location, or maybe one near your island location in the overworld. Here's how:
   Upon entering the portal the server would teleport you to ((1250+your island's x), 75, (1250+your island's z)), with each 1250 being either positive or negative depending on whether or not your island's relating coordinates were positive or negative. A 3x3 platform of obsidian (unbreakable) would be placed underneath the player.
   This would space out the player spawns further than the nether, and it is extremely rare to find another player in the nether.
   
2. End cities would be overpowered, allowing users to collect rares like dragon heads and elytra really easily.
   This could be fixed by generating the end without structures. Another possible fix would be changing the loot in the end cities to be a bit less overpowered, and possibly removing the dragon heads and elytra from the ships. This may be difficult, however.
3. End stone, end pearls, and chorus fruit would be overpowered, as they are abundant in the end.
   This could be fixed by reducing the drop rate of these items. end pearls are the only thing that we wouldn't have to reduce the drop rate of.

Now, I understand that this would take quite a while to implement, but it isn't a "figure out how much resources the devs have" and instead a place to share creativity, etc.
That is why I implore the devs to take a look at this suggestion... when they have the time.

 

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Full support, skyblock needs a big new update and the End will definitely suffice. Lots of players, new and old, will come to the server for the end update. This update would be one of the best yet!

 

I’m afraid I’m going to have to No Support this one, it seems it creates more problems than advantages.
I don’t see the benefits of having an end dimension, but I like the creativity behind the suggestion - it would cause fluctuations within the economy and I don’t like them

 

Fair point.
I believed I fixed all of the problems that I laid out, are there any specific ones I should think about?
And yeah, I understand that fluctuations in the economy are the worst.
Thanks for the feedback!

To be fair, nothing in the nether is much needed either. I will change my suggestion to (if possible) remove the chests from end cities or replace the loot with lower level items, and remove the end ships.

 

We could have the End Dimension with no dragon heads or elytras may be hard, but if it does succeed then I can Support that, we can have a /warp end in order to share a End portal that teleports you randomly in the End that is not the void, but Yes.

 

Bump

 

Nah it ruins the economy for purpur, chorus flowers, endstone etc etc but then again this is coming from a person who owns a purpur monopoly also its a lot of work for the devs so no support from me sorry moe

 

I kind of like the idea but to be honest end stone is valuable and considering how pretty much every block in the end has high value, it would be overpowered. However the part of this I absolutely love is unlimited space to build and possibilities of great things being built. However there will also probably be conflicts due to some random guy deciding to grief the end, so there should be an anti-grief system. (Just saying #1 on your list is pretty much impossible so the best idea is to turn off placing and destroying for most of the end mainland.[End portals work far more differently than nether portals])

For the drop rates thing I must disagree with you due to the commonness of end items being extremely common, effectively messing up businesses due to their commonness. (Plus we really do not want people to entirely destroy end islands.)

To be honest I get the feeling the end would be better as an empty void with unlimited free building space if you want my personal opinion.

Also this doesn't seem to hard to implement a plugin that disables a structure to be honest.

I am neutral right now.

 

Thank you Red for your feedback, but it doesn't really seem like you read my suggestion well. You mentioned that End items would drop in value, but I suggested that drop rates be heavily reduced so as to impact the economy, but not ruin it. As it is now, end stone itself is nearly impossible to get for cheap, which severely reduces the amount of creativity available to users, and Chorus fruit isn't exactly cheap either.
Pig, you gave very detailed feedback, so let me respond to each of your points.

Well, that is why I suggested having reduced drop rates, so as to impact but not destroy the economy.

Thanks for the feedback. However, it would actually be quite easy to implement the teleportation.
Here's my idea:

This would both reduce griefing, as well as giving users plenty of space to build and mine.
Also, griefing would be impossible to entirely remove, as players would want to mine for resources/terraform.

Not quite sure what you mean by this, could you elaborate?
I believe I fixed the griefing as well.

Sorry to be harsh, but that's exactly what the overworld is, and having a second version of that is no different than having an alt, and would be completely useless.

 

Support, maybe make the end how it is like the nether?

Low drop rates, fortune would be beneficial. And everyone has their own. There won't be an end city unless they make one without elytra because with elytra... it wouldn't be good.

 

I think this would get a lot of players excited about skyblock again. Just like everyone was when the nether was added. It adds more to do in-game which leads to less boredom. I think it would also be really cool to be able to collect your own end stone even with the low drop rate. Players could start selling and building with it because you won't have to spend a fortune at /warp trade.

 

Personally I don't seem much benefit to the end being implemented. If end cities were enabled as you suggested, with nerfed loot, it would most like inflate whatever items are left. If end cities weren't enabled, the end would only inflate items like chorus and end stone, with a lowered drop rate or not. Regarding end items, I think the economy is in a good place so except. There are some aspects of the end I'd enjoy, like the exploration. I know others would enjoy the end regardless thought, so I'm neutral.

 

If you wonder what I mean about the reduced drop rates not affecting anything, people could build flying machines which break chorus and easily get hoards of chorus fruit off the ground. (Point being it is simply too overpowered to have chorus fruit.)

 

Flying machines are not allowed and is breaking the rules if built.

 

Fair enough, but someone is going to break those rules eventually.

 

You could bring up that same point about Island farming, and use that as a method of arguing that island resets should be entirely removed.

Otherwise, chorus fruit drop rates could still be reduced regardless of the method used to break them. Flying machines would be no more OP than elytra, etc.

Thanks for the feedback!
I would disagree with the inflation of end city loot. Since /fly would be disabled similar to how it is disabled in the nether (forgot to add that), It would be quite rare to find an end city.
That's fair, I would argue that the economy is similar to bitcoin (no real value of anything except what people are willing to pay for it) and so it really doesn't matter what changes are made. The reason that I suggested this in the first place was twofold: First, so that we could access a vanilla area of the game. Second, so that the economy for end islands could improve. Since instabreaking end blocks isn't possible (unlike netherrack), And the drop rate would be reduced (also unlike netherrack), I doubt the economy would change that much. I see end stone being worth 16:1 or at most 32:1.
Regardless, I appreciate your point of view.

 

Support,

But I would suggest nerfing the drop rates of some items in the end, like how nether quartz drops are nerfed in the nether.

 

Bump

 

Bump

 

OMG this is so well written!
I really like this idea as a concept we can get for both /economy and /skyblock since endstone is stupid over priced and its a really nice décor block.

I fully support this 100%, would be lovely to see