I'd agree. its annoying to see resold mapart without direct permissions. I also agree though with Laini's Post. blacklist all those resellers.
Black listing or banning from island does nothing to solve the problem. There are millions more accounts in the sea. Staff told me to shun and shame these people. Please re-read that, STAFF told me to shame and shun them and “the community will shun them too”. I like you am very much against this action as nobody should ever be made to feel lonely or receive abuse. But we have no other option to get our point across currently until it can become a staff matter, if a rule is put in place to stop this. All these problems go away.
There are two main ways to discourage and reduce unauthorised map art transactions: Implement an official rule which makes, duplicating one's map art without the explicit consent from its owner/creator illegal, and introduce - appropriate - punishments for offenders. Delegate this responsibility to the community, via - Simply calling-out/shunning offenders on a case-by-case basis. Maintaining a shared repository/database to associate owners to their art, then use this to systematically shun offenders. Point 1 is a quick fix for most, but the additional rule will likely not work as intended or be infeasible to enforce. Staff are volunteers and under normal circumstances quite scarce, this rule will simply overburden them. Point 2a is what we have now, players rely on each other not to forge art, and to notify owners when their art is being misused. This works sometimes, and doesn't other times (hence the existence of this thread). Point 2b is a extension of ChaiBean post. Personally I feel a shared database that associates art to their respective owner is the best solution, this way staff are less involved and the issue is managed (mainly) on a community level. The following is a extension of Chai's idea, but making it more community-orientated. There can be a tread created by an admin that is pinned to a forums board (e.g. Help). Within the thread, map art owners are able to post what art belongs to them and other details; Art name Art image (screenshot attachment) Private or Public-domain (free to duplicate) If private, who has the rights to duplicate/resell (Optional) Size and Price This way staff do not need to reconcile individual posts. The community can use ratings to agree or disagree with map art associations, off-topic posts should be deleted. If someone wants to make a post on behalf of a art owner, they should add two more details; owner's name and a screenshot of their conversation with the owner (giving permission to post on their behalf alongside the details of the art). This way one cannot make a post on someone else's art, garner many agree ratings, then edit it to add their name to resell maliciously. The middle ground being, make point 1 a rule, but staff do not go out of their may to enforce it. Instead the community still maintains a database and reports offenders on a case-by-case basis, making staff investigations quicker and more efficient. Case in point being this issue should be resolved within the community with supplemental help from staff, rather than being entirely offloaded to staff members. Edit: People who duplicate and resell map art, in an unauthorised manner, should be prepared to face a certain level of repercussions. Whether its community shunning or a warning/mute/ban by staff.
This perfectly sums up the options available. Each option clearly has its pros and cons but without staff input we cannot initiate any ruling or consequences. Also it seems some users (including myself) dont believe a shunning/shaming based policy is right or even effective, even with a “list”. People who try and talk to those reselling have given examples to an attitude of “idgaf” and “f u”. Shunning/shaming these people doesn’t stop the problem it just creates other problems. A server rule stops these problems. I don’t believe it will be much additional work to staff if any at all. Once there is a rule it’s easier to deter people within the community ourselves without the need for staff support.
I think the people who say we shouldn't be shaming others don't understand. People sometimes spend months making map art to just have it resold now if you find it not cool to shame people for robbery I think your insane. Shame isn't just one of the things we should do though, we should already have a rule to make it so people get banned for reselling (I don't understand why that isn't a rule). Legit just make an idea so this thread can close.
I feel like a lot of good progress was made here today. I have a lot of things I could quote and comment on but I think it's time to make a forum suggestion post about it. I would like to make it, but I think it would be a good idea to run it past a few people who I think have been a big contribution to building these ideas up, in case something could be worded differently or maybe even something added LeoSteel iQuestionLogic would you two be down to make a discord group DM with me so we could do that? njaa#0314
Edit: Starfish Mall doesn't resell maparts, you sell them at the store, your price, your chest, your sign.
There is a new mapart reseller in town. They go by the name of gribblo. They are reselling tons of maparts as shown in the pictures below. I think this is an alt as they have 1 hour of playtime, and their starter island is completely intact... I would guest ban this person asap, but as it is an alt there may be more of the same person...
Thank you for bringing this here, I'm bored of this servers management ignoring this for too long now. I'm not going to continue playing here until this is sorted, my mapart island is locked. I will still visit forums, but you will not see me in game. I'm just bored of the constant problems that staff are just ignoring like the problem doesn't exist. Good luck everyone, shame management doesn't care about you.
Oh cmon pikachu one was my breakout best seller Jokes aside, this is pathetic. Why do people need to resell? Pikachu hasnt been sold since january, so this is defo an alt
I have spoken with a staff member that will remain anonymous. They say they will NOT add the banning of reselling of mapart to the rules, because it is too much work. I gave them some tips which were all ignored: Add it to the rules, so players are demoralized to begin with: they are not going to do this Only respond to reports of reselling, so it is less work. To this the answer was that it was all too much work. In my opinion, if it is too much work to respond to reports than the staff team needs to increase in size and fast. They said it is our own responsibility to maintain resellers, and that if we bring mapart to the market that we must expect it to be resold. I do not see how we can take responisbility if we cant ban anyone from the server and I find it very strange that this is given to us, and that the staff team will not respond to THEFT of work on maparts. I find this very strange.
personally this makes sense to me, the staff team has many other things to implement, banning people for reselling mapart given all the new players that will do it is a very hard task.
