Skyblock Addition of /pv

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  1. Brake
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    Hello, /pv is a playervault that allows you to store items just like an enderchest, but allowing storage up to a DC.
    I'm suggesting this being added to Skytitan's and Donor400's, and maybe Highroller on /economy.
    Also it is possible to have this for all ranks, and the higher the rank, the more slots on their /pv they unlock.
    For instance, Skynight rank could unlock one row, and if they were to upgrade their rank, they'd get another row.
    There are no down sides to /pv existing, so long as it is accessible by staff, simply another space to store items, as anyone can use an enderchest (but obviously only donors can do /ec etc).
     
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    This seems a tiny bit overpowered. Obviously, it'd make a huge convenience for me and many others; I wouldn't object at all if they implemented it.

    It may even bring the server more revenue; perhaps an option on the store where you can pay to have extra /pv slots? On an old server I staffed on a few years back, they sold 1 DC of /pv space for $5. It'd be a useful upgrade, and could help to provide funds for better hosting and less latency.
     
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    The most common player vault plugin, for reference.

    I do think it'd be a bit cool to see, I've enjoyed it other servers I've seen it on, including some of my own survival servers I've run for friends in the past. Though there are currently a decent bit of downsides to it...

    Pros:
    • Easily customize-able. Could easily add varying tiers to different ranks, allowing various ranks to have progressively more and more vault space.
    • Adds more Shop potential. Players would be more incentivized to buy ranks, especially the lower ranks, if they were given the addition of these personal vaults they could get to store their items. An additional tab could also be added to allow for players to buy additional vault space for a small fee.
    • Nice little extra secure place for people to store items if their enderchest is full, or they don't want to take up space in their enderchest. Helps avoid the need to always use an enderchest for certain items you want to keep safe, and avoids the worry that something may be stolen from a chest, or needing to add secret private chests away from people.
    • Source code is open, so we could easily download the source code and modify it as needed.
    Cons:
    • Developer isn't the greatest. His code is okay, but not quite professional level. He's also somewhat inactive, immature, and not the best at feedback. A lot of the plugin would need to be modified by the development team, as we wouldn't use this plugin out the gate. Or we would just write our own version outright.
    • Possible duplication glitches still exist. This plugin has been plagued with duplication glitches for as long as it's existed, which has made many major servers weary to implement it. The dev claims to have patched all active duplication glitches, but we can never be certain.
    • The plugin as-is does not support database usage, and currently does everything through a configuration file. For a server as large as ours, this file would immediately become massive, and reading and writing player vault changes to it would add a good deal of lag. The dev has been saying he'll add database support to the plugin for years, but still has never done it. We'd most likely need to convert the plugin ourselves to use a database instead of a configuration file.
    • Various other unconfirmed issues with the plugin, such as specially named items or certain characters causing the vaults to crash, or wipe a players vault all together if it doesn't like something that the player puts in. This would need to be further looked into.
    • Adds an additional layer for staff to search when looking for stolen items. As-is, staff need to look through chests, placed blocks, player inventories, and enderchests when looking for stolen/illegal items. Adding player vaults would add another layer of complexity to this, with an additional place staff would need to start looking through to try and find items they may be looking for.
    • The plugin also only currently has one setting for admins, being that any staff member with the permission can open and modify player vaults. Ideally, we would like to scale this the same way we do player inventory and enderchest permissions, where there's a permission to look into player vaults, as well as a permission to modify player vaults.
    Overall, I would like to see a plugin like this exist and succeed on the server. The main player vault plugins out there, though, aren't the best, so we'd need to either heavily modify existing plugins, or create our own from scratch.
     
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    On Mineverse (on kitpvp and most likely other gamemodes) there are /pv's, I haven't heard of any duping issues that have occurred there but possibly there have been. Maybe it's worth speaking to a Dev there?
    Update: I've just checked the Mineverse forums and they don't seem to have any Dev's, however, Matt is a Dev here and an Admin on mineverse so maybe it's best to speak to him.
     
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    Isn’t /echest a thing?


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    Player vaults provide a very different experience. With ender chests, everyone has them, and they all have the same amount of space. While some donors have access to /ec, it doesn't provide too much of an extra advantage, just saves the time of finding an ender chest nearby.

    With /pv, you could have something like Skyknights get 9 slots, Skykings get 18 slots, Skylords get 27 slots (an extra ender chest, basically), Skygods get 36 slots, and Skytitans & Donors get 54 slots (two extra ender chests). Players could also possibly buy additional storage space or slots.
    *Note that none of this is final for anything, I'm just explaining possible scenarios in which Player Vaults could work out

    It provides an alternative to ender chests, which can be greater customized and accessible by more players.
     
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    1000% support. Seen it on some youtubers' channels.
    Maybe have it disabled, for you, if you've either been banned in the last 6 months or for duping using command bugs, or maybe duping at all.
     
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    Full support! I also like the idea that, the higher the rank, the more slots.

    Maybe D400 could have all slots available and the rest of the ranks get the option to buy their remaining slots for in-game items or maybe a small amount of cash
     
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    It would make the Skyknight rank a bit better for the $10 that the people will spend & It would be useful like /ec.

    BUT, We may occur duplication glitches that can effect the economy.
     
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    AKA: Don't give me any ideas
     
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    full suport pls add i curently carry grass in a shulker around and would prefer not to have to get trused to take grass or go home
     
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    Neutral cause of mostly what Redstone said especially when it comes to duping glitches.
    I support the ideas of either make it so you can buy it for 5$ on the shop as Gamer said or make it so the higher rank you are the more slots are open as Fran stated.
     
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    If the plugin was to become more reliable in the future, I would support. But for now I'll say neutral.
     
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    This is a great idea
     
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    I do like this idea and think it would be a good addition, but if the plugin could bring issues it may not be worth it. For now I’m neutral.
     
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    If nothing else they should expand enderchest slots
     
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    Ok before it is a month and this is necroposting, I kinda want to bump this.

    It would be very useful for item transportation, and you could do many cool things with it. I personally like it, because while /ec is convienent, its nothing special.
     
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    I agree but also slightly disagree, as this adds to the Pay2win aspect of the server. While your not essentially winning, it's another thing that players have to pay money for to use. As we already have /ec, I feel like it isn't 100% needed. It might make a great addition, but it isn't a necessity that the server needs (if you know what I mean).
     
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    I agree, it isn't a necessity, but /ec isn't really that good. It isn't different then what normal players can use, and /pv isnt really some "gamechanging" thing that makes it too pay2win, just a little extra
     

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