Something has to be done about Island Level

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  1. Creepingdeath9
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    As the tread name
    Something needs to be done about the island level system.

    Yesterday i visited Mostly top 20 islands and many looks soo good but also many is just big areas filled with Slime OR other blocks just to gain level.
    My Island is not the best but i worked Extremly Hard with it to make it look nice and I bet many others feel the same as me.

    Yes i lately placed slime to to gain level but most of my Island level is just from my structures.

    Really got no suggestions on how to fix this, just saying what i feel
     
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    i feel like island level should have been something that gives you a personal gain. I also think having a top 20 list for something you can just "cheat" to gain the most level isn't representing what that list is supposed to.
    If you change the algorithm it could work until people find the pattern and cheat a different way, with a potential for new players to be affected. Though new players are at a disadvantage as they usually start with cobble and things with no level gain.

    Island level should be displayed beside our names in chat instead and the top 20 islands should be done away with. But perhaps the issue is simply that changes to this system would require a plugin rewrite
     
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    Well written! I aggre on all this
    Cous now those who cheat gain free advertising for their islands for Everyone to see
     
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    Yeah slime blocks are just messed up
     
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    Yeah but If slime block level geting lowered ppl Will just start piling upp another block
     
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    A good island will never be able to be measured by any algorithm.
    Island levels in this instance don’t make sense since they reward people for placing blocks. Anyone can place blocks. You place more valuable blocks, you get more levels which means being a donor helps a lot.
    More blocks placed doesn’t mean creative build.

    I would love to see island level replaced one day
     
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    that is why the more valuable the block is it should be more rare. like diamond blocks arent necessarily easy to get but should raise it.
     
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    Perhaps with a 'Likes from island visitors' system...
     
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    As Krissy said, the island level doesn't mean too much. It took me 6 hours of placing slime to get into the top 10, and it didn't feel like much of an achievement. I was mostly just curious to see how hard the slime strategy was, and was surprised to learn just how effective it is.

    There is no way for island level to be perfect, though we can always improve the algorithm. This thread has some great suggestions for ways that would make island level slightly more balanced and difficult to achieve Skyblock - Island level algorithm | Skyblock Forums

    No matter what system is put in place, it will get abused.

    This has been suggested a few times, but this just runs into the bot army issue. I know very little about scripting relative to many people on the server, but even I could easily give myself 500-1000 island likes within an hour. People with more time and skill could get themselves to the top of the list permanently. Top rated islands would just become a war of bots.

    To my knowledge, there is no perfect solution. I think it's best just to let island level exist as something for those who care about it, while the rest of us ignore it and understand it has no real meaning.
     
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    Well IF we gona ignore it, we can keep the level system and just remove the top10 system so no listing exist
     
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    The biggest problem is that I can't walk around big shops of popular players* anymore due to the horrible lag of slime blocks haha

    *Fix your islands, please.
     
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    If you don't render the slime it doesn't lag you out ;) At least for me. I can visit Haberson without lag so long as I don't go out to his slime walls. But my computer also only drops down to 150 FPS when I render the slime, so my CPU or GPU may be shielding me from the full force of lag
     
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    How do you do that? Surely it cant be just decreasing the render distance?
     
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    I'd imagine it's the render distance. His island also has a good bit of lag due to all of the shops, but that for me only happens when I first visit his island. Once it's rendered, FPS goes back up to normal. Then it takes a dip again when I render his slime. Haberson keeps all of slime on the outskirts of his island, so as long as you don't render those chunks, they won't influence your performance.

    From the talks of things, I think most of the lag people experience is from his massive central island structure, full of item frames, shops with their displays, banners, and mob farms.
     

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