AFK Auto-Advertising

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  1. Lz
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    Please also significantly tone down the amount and/or frequency of [skyblock] tips and annoucements.
    They are horrible, and a major cause for spam in chat.
     
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    This goes back to when I used to host my own skyblock server in 2014 - 2016 and I had a feature at my spawn that allowed players to place a warp sign to their island and put only a second sign below it advertising only a few lines. There were many billboards around my spawn with different interaction and players had to pay to keep their sign up based on player traffic in certain areas. This feature worked out really well and our shop-keeper economy did fine.
     
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    Just treat excessive advertising like any other spam. Make a rule that auto-ads can have a maximum frequency of, say, every 15 minutes. If the staff can't detect this, the community can. It's trivial to detect it within logs and report it.

    For example, here are some occurrences from my logs from yesterday:

    Monster
    [16:56:54] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Do§bn§for§8] §3Mon§bst§fer§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]
    [16:58:54] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Do§bn§for§8] §3Mon§bst§fer§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]
    [17:00:55] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Do§bn§for§8] §3Mon§bst§fer§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]
    [17:02:55] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Do§bn§for§8] §3Mon§bst§fer§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]
    [17:04:56] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Do§bn§for§8] §3Mon§bst§fer§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]

    In case you missed it, Monster reminds us of his (not) Best Prices On The Server every 2 minutes...or actually even more frequently because his alt is doing the same:

    More Monster
    [17:03:34] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Sk§byti§ftan§8] §3Woo§bl_S§fhop§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]
    [17:09:35] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Sk§byti§ftan§8] §3Woo§bl_S§fhop§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]
    [17:25:34] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §8[§3Sk§byti§ftan§8] §3Woo§bl_S§fhop§r: [Wool, Dye & Banners] [/Visit Wool_Shop] Best Prices On The Server [Wool 192:1] [Dye 384:1] [Banners 32:1]

    SqrtMan
    [17:13:12] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §3[§bSkygod§3]§b SqrtMan§r: Visit My Shop * Low Prices! * Rare Key 1:16 Spawner 1:56 Shulker 1:3 Diamond 1:4 Iron 3:1 Lapis 32:1 Glass 6:1 Wood 144:1 and more! [Click Here] /visit SqrtMan
    [17:17:16] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §3[§bSkygod§3]§b SqrtMan§r: Visit My Shop * Low Prices! * Rare Key 1:16 Spawner 1:56 Shulker 1:3 Diamond 1:4 Iron 3:1 Lapis 32:1 Glass 6:1 Wood 144:1 and more! [Click Here] /visit SqrtMan
    [17:21:15] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §3[§bSkygod§3]§b SqrtMan§r: Visit My Shop * Low Prices! * Rare Key 1:16 Spawner 1:56 Shulker 1:3 Diamond 1:4 Iron 3:1 Lapis 32:1 Glass 6:1 Wood 144:1 and more! [Click Here] /visit SqrtMan

    SqrtMan gives us his prices every 4 minutes.

    LadyAnkie
    [17:28:20] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §f[S§dky§5ti§9ta§1n] §fLa§ddy§5An§9ki§1e§r: ??????? <Click Here For Shop>??????? Casino! (Win ELyTRa/LegKeY) BaNnErCaSiNo Public tables portals, free food! ???????
    [17:33:20] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §f[S§dky§5ti§9ta§1n] §fLa§ddy§5An§9ki§1e§r: ??????? <Click Here For Shop>??????? Casino! (Win ELyTRa/LegKeY) BaNnErCaSiNo Public tables portals, free food! ???????
    [17:38:20] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §f[S§dky§5ti§9ta§1n] §fLa§ddy§5An§9ki§1e§r: ??????? <Click Here For Shop>??????? Casino! (Win ELyTRa/LegKeY) BaNnErCaSiNo Public tables portals, free food! ???????

    LadyAnkie causes us to question capitalization rules every 5 minutes.

    Terms
    [17:41:06] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §b[§7Skytitan§b] §bT§7erms§by§r: {Click Here} To Visit my Castle and xKurai's Shop ?
    [17:43:03] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §b[§7Skytitan§b] §bT§7erms§by§r: {Click Here} To Visit my Castle and xKurai's Shop ?
    [17:45:04] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §b[§7Skytitan§b] §bT§7erms§by§r: {Click Here} To Visit my Castle and xKurai's Shop ?

    Terms, reminding us he has a castle every 2 minutes.

    Bl1nk
    [17:47:55] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §5[§dSkylord§5]§d Bl1nK§r: Come Visit my Shop [Click Here] Buying your Quartz For grass!
    [17:49:55] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §5[§dSkylord§5]§d Bl1nK§r: Come Visit my Shop [Click Here] Buying your Quartz For grass!
    [17:51:55] [main/INFO] [net.minecraft.client.gui.GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] §5[§dSkylord§5]§d Bl1nK§r: Come Visit my Shop [Click Here] Buying your Quartz For grass!

    Bl1nk buying quartz every 2 minutes.

    So...all staff have to do is make a rule...players then report it...and staff then enforce it with the proper tempmute.

    Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
     
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    Because I haven't responded to this idea yet, going to manual advertising is going to make a lot of people, myself included, unhappy. An advertising board/shop commands makes a lot more sense. Gilgmech's idea would be a welcome addition into official skyblock, in my opinion.
     
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    Well if you had a plug-in that detected if an ad was sent say 3 times, once every 5 minutes exactly, then they could get an auto warning or a 5 minute mute or smthin
     
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    To be honest it’s not a play skyblock server anymore it’s more like afk auto advertising different places. Maybe a command that show different shops etc then we don’t need to advertise
     
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    I joined the server just to check it out and the chat was legit only advertising and skyblock tips..

    Just remove it and make it like the old days, MANUALLY
     
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    It isn't difficult at all, many servers utilise this already to prevent spammers; "Your message is too similar to your last one". The problem is, as you can guess, that there will be similar messages (saying "haha" twice within 5 minutes, or "hey") which will also be filtered.
     
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    If the server can detect that you're afk, it wouldn't be hard to detect consistent message intervals, repeat messages, etc.
     
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    What about people who use water pools to afk?
     
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    If you are only sending the few same messages at a certain interval or similar varying ones, its detectable. All these extra situations you're imposing are pretty much counterable as you just need another variable to cancel it out.
     
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    100% vouch if people don't want to see annoying ads, your game has a built in ad blocker called /ignore.
     
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    Well uh, what I was saying is that like if it detects that you said the same thing in chat to the second of 5 mins/ 2 mins it would know you autoadvert cus its very very unlikely that would happen otherwise.
     
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    This is why I don't like these filters in my opinion, this happens SO much on servers with this filter in place (at least for me)

    For example, if I say lol to a funny comment in a game, dont chat for 3 minutes, then lol to another funny comment, the filter blocks it
     
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    You gotta be innovative: 101, LUL, |o|, (0)...
     
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    (0) totally stands for lol LOL
     
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    It gets annoying to see players use afk advertising in the chat because it moves your message up the chat list really fast. I've had to send an extra message every time someone places their 500-word advertisement about "Cheap diamonds and Iron PLEASE VISIT ME". If you have something great about your shop, that's really good; the point of skyblock is to build your own island for you to enjoy and maybe have others enjoy it as well.

    I'm going to be honest here, I sell iron, logs, and Redstone, which in my opinion gives me a special advantage of other shops, and I advertise them. But I don't take up 40% of the chat space only to move 3-4 messages to the very top so only a few people will see it and the player who used 40% of the chat space deserves to get all the attention. Seriously it's somewhat attention-grabbing if I have to be really honest.

    With Gilga's bot, I like the idea however it doesn't get everyone's price in there. Sometimes when someone needs logs Gilga will list all the places that do sell logs, however, the list doesn't include some places. The second issue I have with the bot is whether it is going to pick up player's tradeshops that have been modified because a lot of players (including me) tend to modify prices, add/remove tradechests to keep up with the demand. If the bot can manage people's tradeshops being altered often then I wouldn't mind using it. This is my own opinion and idk if it is relevant to the bot but I feel like having the bot would be sort of spammy because it would take up a large portion of the chat often. As I said before it would be kind of an annoyance having your message being moved up the chat all of a sudden with only few people seeing it and later it's gone.
     
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    This would actually be amazing. Although I think they should just make the limits 5 per island
     

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