Denied [CavemanBen] major looting, suspected duping, persistent rudeness towards other players [Console]

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  1. Ca1
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    • Server/platform (Classic / Skyblock / Forums / Discord ): Eco
    • In-game name: CavemanBen
    • Did you read the rules ? yes
    • Why do YOU think you were banned? i was falsely banned for the following reasons:
    1. banned from 'looting' from zim, me and zim worked this out and although he doesn't play this server anymore he doesn't want me banned for this. we are still in a team so it isn't looting. also the chest clearly states 'CAVEMANBEN GRASS/SAND CHEST'.
    2. banned for duping. my story is below.
    3. persistent disrespect to others, please give evidence and if i agree it classes as disrespect/rudeness, then i have a proposition
    • Was this an incorrect ban? i believe so
    • Were you ever banned before on SkyBlock? yes
    • Why do you think you should be unbanned? as i stated above i didn't loot anything from zim, we are in a team. as for the duping, yes there is logs of me with gazillions of emerald/diamond blocks, these were given to me by a player called abstract_ who I reported to iako shortly after and i believe he was banned. i eventually knew, those were duped items, and at the time i recieved a notification from a player on discord saying he was starting up a premier minecraft skyblock server offering big $$ for the top islands at the beginning of april. i joined there server and played for a bit but soon realised that i was never going to get a top island unless i paid money. being 13 years old i didn't really have the funds to spend it on a minecraft server, but i could get some if i got a few extra dollars from youtube i would have 90$ as 90$ is the benchmark for having google send the funds to your bank account, so i decided to make a video on me 'duping' on skyblock, because it would get peoples attention therefore getting the money i needed. i never got the funds i needed, and recently the server changed its host ip and reset, more people joined, and now, i realise more than ever, that i would have never stood a chance. as for the duped items, $2m went to jimalexblack for a Highroller upgrade on an account 'helix420', and the rest was destroyed.

    i believe i have been given the privelege to appeal as stated in my ban message above.
     
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    It was zim who reported it to me originally and wanted his items back. If I can, I'm going to try to have a conversation with zim about the whole thing so I know for sure what went on here, so I can figure out exactly what happened and if that aspect of the appeal is resolved. I'll keep you updated if I get the chance to speak to him.

    Regarding your duping - with the original items, why didn't you go straight to a mod? Receiving 500+ diamond and emerald blocks from a drop party isn't a regular thing.
    Why didn't you go straight to a staff member? This isn't an issue that players should be handling and you should have gone straight to a staff member. Is there a reason you didn't?
    Again, you should have gone straight to a staff member about this and had it resolved.

    I would like to point out that holding onto duped items / using them is just as illegal as duping them yourself, and if you got 500+ diamond and emerald blocks from a player and had any suspicions that they were duped, you should not have held onto them and should have gone straight to a staff member.

    If you didn't know from the start that these items were obtained illegitimately, why did you store them in abstract locations and co-ordinates on many different islands? It seems to me that you may have known about these items being duplicated, but you didn't do anything to get it resolved.

    Why are you only just mentioning this story now? If this is the reason you created that video, why didn't you tell me in your original appeal? You had plenty of chances to do so, but you never mentioned anything like this to me once. In the original appeal, whenever I presented anything to you regarding your duping you came up with multiple different reasons for it and tried to backpedal on the video you made. Why didn't you mention this story then?

    One final note, before you were banned you had been island farming across multiple different accounts. To me, this indicates that you didn't have any intention to follow the rules and were more concerned with the items that you had.

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    so, i recieve items from a player, originally believed his claim of being the richest quitting player on the server, and hey, i'm getting richer! so its a win-win, no moderators needed.
    yes there is a reason i did not, at the time there was a discord server named 'SkyblockSec' ('Sec' short for security) which had some moderators and iako claims they have close ties with Leeeroieeee and that the moderators don't know how to handle situations like this.
    i don't believe that those items were held in many different locations, those could be other players items, i believe those items were 1) at my first island 2) at zim's island 3) at u4p's island all belonging to me
    CavemanBen is the only account i own, i sometimes use mcleaks accounts but could you please show me the list of accounts.
     
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    I just went in game and got up the logs of you moving around diamond and emerald blocks. I teleported to the chests you were moving around the blocks, and here's some of the co-ordinates I found and the islands they led me to:

    You took 495x diamond blocks from a chest at -598:68:2401. This led me to an island belonging to cjluciani.
    You took 13x diamond blocks from a chest at -203:204:-7800. This island belonged to Skylandia.

    These were all blocks moved by your account, CaveManBen. From these two examples, I can see that you hadn't just stored these blocks where you've told me you did.

    A scan shows these other accounts:
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    Here are logs of island farming going on:
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    They are just some of the logs that suggest you island farmed.

    I would also like you to answer my main question.
    Why didn't you tell me this YouTube video explanation in your original appeal? Surely you would have told me that quickly to somewhat explain the whole thing,
     
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    i did not tell you this explanation, i told you the vital things which were TRUE e.g, recieved items from abstract_ from DP, there was actually no proof of me duping items, i didn't have multiple different reasons for it, i had one argument and that was i didn't dupe, and recieved items from other players.

    CavemanBen is the only account I own and play on.
    Skylandia, Skybloxian, AutoPumpkin farm belong to my brother ~Sky~ , and as i can see the only island farming records were from him so you may need to sort that out with him. He transfers the blocks between his three accounts.
    GiddyAy belongs to my little brother.
    this island now belongs to cjluciani because it was my old island before i joined zim and the co-ordinates led you there, because that is where i stored the items.
    items were also on skylandia's island because he did an amnesty of recieving duped items, so again you may need to catch up with him. sorry if i do not answer any of your questions, sometimes i miss them
     
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    However, the video was an important part of the appeal, and the video you posted was brought up multiple times. It seems strange that you wouldn't tell me this explanation then.

    The discord you mentioned early on in the appeal: can you tell me what you did on that server? Did you only use it to report that you had received duped items?
     
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    no i just reported abstract_ for duping
    i didn't explain because i thought i was 100% in the right because of the fact that there wasn't proof i actually hadn't duped anything
     
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    I will be denying this appeal.

    I do not believe that this appeal has added anything significant to the original situation. I do not believe you are giving the full truth and I also believe that you are evasive in your answers to questions simply to drag on the appeal and cast doubt over any evidence presented. Openly admitting to duping and the evidence to support this, despite how you may explain it, is clear enough evidence for us. You have taken both appeals around in circles and your story has changed and overlapped.

    You have shown no remorse for your actions and the consequences that they have caused. You haven't apologised for the things you have done; only tried to grab at straws to explain them. You haven't' presented a major reason as to why you should be unbanned. With all the evidence, this ban is correct.

    You do not respect the staff: if you were holding duped blocks, you didn't go to a staff member. Even if you didn't dupe items yourself, you still kept hold of some. Like I have explained - this is just as illegal. You try to dismiss any questions that you can and you try to grab at straws to disprove anything presented. I would like to add that we are not obliged to give evidence, and I believe that the evidence that warranted your first ban still stands. You have previously been banned and given more chances, but you have thrown that away and shown that you cannot be trusted to follow our server's rules.
     
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