Island farming fix

Discussion in 'Server Gameplay Suggestions Archive' started by Megacrusher4200, Sep 29, 2018.

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Which idea(s) do you like best?

  1. Idea 1

    71.4%
  2. Idea 2

    21.4%
  3. Idea 3 (removed)

    7.1%
  4. Idea 4

    57.1%
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  1. Megacrusher4200
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    Hey there. Let’s talk about something. Ever heard of island farming? Here is an interesting fact: over 50% of the people who get punished for island farming are unaware of the rule. So let’s propose an idea.

    If we don’t do anything to stop this, people will still be unaware of the rule. Ideas:

    Idea 1: (Krissy mentioned this idea and I wanted to mention it): Have a cooldown every time you execute the “/newisland” command. This could be around 1 hour.

    Idea 2: alert staff if somebody has created more than 3 islands in under an hour.

    Any other ideas? Suggest them!
     
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    I mainly support the first and fourth ideas. For the cooldown, maybe the first 2 times you restart your island there would be a few minutes cooldown but after your 3rd and 4th+ times maybe like an hour or 2 cooldown. Or the fourth idea whereas if someone tries to island farm and creates around 11 islands (for example) in an hour the staff would be notified and would check the player if he/she is island farming or something. For the second idea I'm staying neutral and for the 3rd idea I would no support but instead, I would add some island rules to the /rules (I've already suggested this idea)
     
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    Support on ideas 1 and 2, they will really help with preventing island farming. I think 2 should be extended to all illegal-to-trade items, even if people die with them because they can't place it in an ender chest, they will still be able to retrieve them with /lnf

    No support on the other ideas, rule 1 is way better than rule 4, since people reset islands 3 times in less than an hour for many reasons that are not island farming.Rule3 is just weird.

    Maybe rename island farming to something that makes it more obvious what the rule is (I think this may have been suggested by someone)

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    I like the 1st idea of an island reset cooldown after 2nd one. (Gives room for error for those who misclicked)

    2 is a little iffy since some donors do remake islands once a while and put their dirt in echests (legally obtained placed grass) or join other coops

    3rd one, what if when you make an island, a message pops up in chat stating "island farming(the process of making new islands for the sake of illegal to trade materials) is illegal. Please type yes to continue creating your island"

    4 it would be nice to have an announcement saying" <user> has created ___ new islands in the past week"
     
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    I agree with these, But I think island restarts should be limited to (3?) a week, that way staff will no longer have to worry about any major island farming at all for the most part, as well as when the person DOES restart their island, they get a message like "You have (2) restarts left this week."
     
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    Support on idea 1 and 4. The cool down will probably discourage island farmers, because they have wait. Maybe the staff team will be alerted, instead of someone alerting staff. I'm staying neutral on Idea 2. No support on idea 3. I feel like we are going to loose players if we put a handbook.
     
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    Staff getting notified when people create new islands is a good idea. Having a cool down works too. The rest are a bit harder to implement. I don’t want to not be able to put dirt in my enderchest.
     
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    Idea 1: Well, they could just wait for a hour then they will Island Farm Again.

    Idea 2: Pretty much a good idea, what about shulkers?

    Idea 3: Interesting.

    Idea 4: What if someone messed up their cobble generator?

    btw, I was gonna say this idea.
     
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    Support!
    Apart from idea 2. I place a lot of my dirt and grass in my /echest when I'm working on my island and/or my alts island. Just because I find /echest easier to use compared to shulkerboxes in smaller projects where you might just need 1 or 2 extra inv slots
     
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    I think the best solution is that staff get notified for every single island created, and it could be based on a 24 hour basis, where if a repeating person creates an island it could say “Lanny has made a new island [19]”. Support.
     
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    Support 1,2, and 4 seem amazing and can prevent island farming I feel like 3 would tell people its a rule and make them want to do it, its like telling a kid they can't eat the candy when its infrontt of them
     
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    Support for the first and fourth idea.
    The others seem harder to implement so No Support on them.
    I also like this idea Southwark suggested:
    I think these ideas would make players more aware of island farming.
     
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    I would go for number 4
    Support
     
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    I think the best option here is to notify staff members when a player restarts, with a number of how many times they have, support.
     
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    Definite support for the first and fourth idea, would be very helpful to notify staff members about play restarts like 52 brought up
     
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    The same as bert
     
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    • The first and fourth ones are great.
    • The second im not sure about because people might use dirt as building material or a scaffolding for builds that people without fly (like me ;)) can use to climb and break with ease.
    • The third I feel like wont work because we have new people that join and that a portion of them are kids who barely finish 1st grade, so they won't know how to work things around and it would be frustrating for them
    EDIT: Also add a poll to the thread so we know which ones are popular. Using the support, neutral, and no support ratings doesn't help which ones are useful :p
     
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    seriously why hasn't even any of this been implemented yet though
    bumpity bump
     
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    I fully support this. I'd agree with number one, but have like a 2 island limit per hour. This sounds like a great idea, and I hope it gets implemented!
     
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    Support. I don't see any problem with including a cooldown for the /newisland command. If you aren't island farming, there is really no reason to be restarting your island very often.

    As for preventing illegal items from being placed in your enderchest, I don't feel that this would be necessary, as having the ability to store these items in your enderchest can be very convenient at times. You can't drop illegal items from your enderchest anyways, and not very many island farmers even use their enderchest to store the materials. Most of them place the dirt on an alternate island for storage, or just immediately place it down on the main island.

    I also really like the idea of alerting the staff if a user creates multiple islands within a short period of time. It would allow us to explain the rule to new players that try to do it, and don't know that it's illegal, and would also help us catch accounts that do attempt to purposefully island farm much quicker.
     
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